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Panchamrit 2 - Pancham Peaks.. (Part-A)
by Vinay P Jain

Answers and Results

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Your comments first..
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.. Shayad is baar mai kuchh behtar kar paaoo.n :-)
- Amit Kumar Sharma

.. I think I've done a much better job this time.
All the education I'm getting from this fabulous group is
showing now. A couple of years back, I would have
probably solved just one, now, I missed only one!
- Ajit Iyer

...You may say it is easier it still
makes you jog your memory to come up with answers
and not having Mr NERURKAR'S book ( Flipside of
joining the group so late) is a bit of handicap vis
avis the lucky ones who do. Just being in this
discussion group is a boon...It is a pleasure
participating in your quiz.
- Dixit Arya

..This was quite tough for me, i did not even get
half of them. If i get more before the deadline i will
send it in..I wonder how tough the first quiz was :)
- Gayatri Gopalan

.. Got 8/15.. but still sending it.. please send me
the answers too..
will look forward to more such quizes on
rec.music.indian.misc
- Siddharth Bhatia

.. let me congratulate you for keeping the quiz
alive and hence the passion for pancham, apart from
regular exchange of emails thru EGroup..

I guess not everyone like to express themselves in
the group, so this surely provides a platform where
they can express their real emotions regarding
pancham and hence the music...Even though i was
equally depressed seeing the response of last quiz,
but surely we will catch up..

This quiz is too simple..i guess for solving this
one you don't need to be a hard-core pancham
fan...even for slighly so called tough ones you have
given so many clues that one can get them in first
shot:-) anyway, i think you did it intentionaly, so
that we can have more participants, right!

anyway, keep the fire burning..
- Subhash Barthwal

.. its nice to hear from you after a loooong time.
can't wait till 10th july.
(he sent his entry on the first day itself -V)
-Sujay Jalihal

.. Thanks for starting quizzes again on RMIM, I was
missing them.

I tried Pancham1 also but it was too tough for me.
Pancham2 was easier (of course comparatively :-)) may be since I know more about R.D's work of 70's and this period include some of my favorite RDB sound track and I had seem most of his movies from this period.

In many cases I found the movie and guess the songs and I couldn't confirm them unless I could find some RD fan who has album of 'Phir wohi Raat' and Jal-Mahal :-) :-)

Anway I enjoyed solving this quiz and also liked the subtle sub-clues. Keep this going.
- Tabassum Hijazi

.. thanx for a lovely quiz.
- Vasant Ekbote

.. here r my answers to the quiz, didnt get all of
them , but have solved most of them. most of the songs by Gulzaar. it was a bit easy quiz.
- Yatin Sangoi

.. Unlike last time, I made sure I sent off my response well in time...
- Vijay Kumar K

.. I just realized how much of Pancham is still unknown to me :))
- Abhijit Patwardhan

..This time I found the questions to be too easy. 14
are sure shot. One is a bit doubt. May be I'm more
familiar with his scores in late 70s onwards than
his early ones.
- Saurav Mazumder

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My turn
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The participation increased. Might have to do with the
quiz being easier than the earlier one. Still more
people enjoyed and experienced a new way to discover
Pancham and that made the whole exercise worth
while. As for the pleasure that I had while
compiling this quiz, I agree that it was altogether
a personal and selfish thing to do and all of you
deserve a note of thanks for letting me do it again
and again.

'Easy' was the most heard word this time. Getting to
the other end of the extreme after the last one
being 'Tough' was an exercise to scale the
fanaticism of the fanatics. And now I know 'ki kaun
kitne paani meiN hai' :)

Surprisingly most of the participants stopped just
before the line. The quiz may be unique for the
number of runners-ups (7 out of 19) who had just one
question wrong (the one question being different for
almost everyone). 5 of the runners-up entries had
the movie name correct for the missing clue.

Thanks anyway to all the friends who participated.
Those who haven't as yet, are advised to do so in
the next one and find out the joy that they
might be missing. Thanks to Vijay Kumar for pointing
me to a correction in the year info for the 3rd
clue. Thanks to Vivek & Vineet for again helping me
with the beta.

Couldn't end without mentioning a few songs that I
found hard to put out of the quiz. The list includes:
ankhiyoN meiN chhoTe chhoTe (Naukar)
sang mere nikle the saajan (Phir Wohi Raat)
aaja mere pyaar aaja (Heeralal Pannalal)
phir wohi raat hai (Ghar)
jaane de gaaD.i teri jaane de (Aanchal)
ye saaye haiN (Sitara)
baD.e achchhe lagte haiN (Balika Vadhu)
a aa i ee (Kitaab)

Thank you all Pancham premees...

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The Participants
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There were 19 entries in all, almost doubling the
Panchamrit 1 number.

1. Sujay Jalihal
2. Amit Kumar Sharma
3. Yatin Sangoi
4. Nilangshu Haldar
5. Bhanu Varma
6. Tabassum Hijazi
7. Vijay Kumar K
8. Ajit Iyer
9. Anshul Chobey
10. Abhijit Bhadra
11. Siddarth Bhatia
12. Girish Bagmar
13. Gayatri Gopalan
14. Vasant Ekbote
15. Subhash C. Barthwal
16. Abhijit Patwardhan
17. Dixit Arya
18. Pavan Jha
19. Saurav Mazumder

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The Answers (served with comments interspersed)
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Note : "***" is followed by my comments.

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Clue 1

kaale kaale piyaa saawan ke baadal chune
baadal chun ke aankhoN meiN kaajal ghule
huee baawaree, bhai saaNwaree....

Panchamrit 1 started with a masterpiece by Lata.
This one starts with an Asha gem. Simply beautiful.

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Song : piyaa baawari
Film : Khoobsurat (80)
Lyrics : Gulzar
Singers : Asha, Ashok Kumar

*** Solved by : All

... waah! the very first classical based song I
began to like immensely - somehow I feel this one
has something to do with Malhaar... it gives me that
'rainy' sensation.
- Amit K S

... one of the pancham's outstanding score where he
showed his true ability on indian classical music
and also why pancham was considered different from
other great MDs.
- Subhash C B

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Clue 2

He:
ik door se aatee hai
paas aa ke palaTatee hai
ik raah akelee see
ruktee hai na chaltee hai

She:
ye soch ke baiThee hooN
ik raah to wo hogee
tum tak jo pahuNchatee hai
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"I gave him the words from one of my poems. He
composed the tune instantly." And this is no
ordinary composition. But then Gulzar continues,"he
never took time. Spontaneity was his specialty. If
he struggled over a song, he would prefer to abandon
it."

This song from one of the most well-known movies by
the Gulzar-Pancham combo is a typical showcase of
Pancham's capability to convert complex lyrics into
great songs.

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Song : is moD. se jaate haiN
Film : Aandhi (75)
Lyrics : Gulzar
Singers : Lata, Kishore

*** Other answers: tum aa gaye ho from Aandhi
(Abhijit Bhadra)

... I cannot believe this took so long!
- Gayatri Gopalan

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Clue 3

mahkee mahkee ye raat hai
bahkee bahkee har baat hai
laajo marooN, jhoome jiya
kaise maiN ye kahooN, aaja saajnaa

The sound of this song is out of the world. The
natural echo of Lata's voice has been used to
advantage by Pancham for creating this mesmerizing
solo. This 1981 (1978 & 1979 as per HMV) movie had
another superb solo by Kishore, very different in
mood, yet as captivating. A less regular writer-poet
does the word-wizardry for this song.

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Song : tere liye palkoN ki jhaalar bunooN
Film : Harjaee (81)
Lyrics : Nida Fazli
Singers : Lata

*** Other answers: kabhi palkoN pe aaNsooN hai from
Harjaee (Bhanu V), maiN hooN teri prem deewani from
Azaad (Nilangshu)

... oooooofff!!! this song makes me shiver every
time, without miss.... Why didn't you mention the
guitar?
- Amit K S

... This one is one of my favorites as is kabhi
palkon from the same movie
- Dixit Arya

... One my Pancham/Lata fav. i heard this score when
i was in 7th standard and i couldn't get away with
it...and later on when i realized that its none
other than our pancham da..i treasured it in
brain-bank as all time favourite...i really loved
the way, bicylcle bell is being used during
interludes..
- Subhash C B

... A real head banger!
- Vasant Ekbote

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Clue 4

kisi din aisa bhee to ho
raat ki subah hi na ho
raat ke baad bhi raat ho.. aap hoN

This one, like numerous others, portrays what Asha
under Pancham's music was capable of. Absolutely
Magical voice.

Sitar, flute, violin & Asha...all goes in tandem to
make this excellent composition a jewel.

Lyrics: Gulzar
Year: 1979

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Song : aisa ho to kaisa hoga
Film : Ratnadeep (79)
Lyrics : Gulzar
Singers : Asha

... another pancham movie which got un-noticed..
Perfect voice and perfect lyrics helped pancham to
score yet another gem

BTW, i am really looking for its video since i do
remember that it has an awesome piece in the
climax.. if anyone has, i will use this opprtunity
to provide me wherabouts...
- Subhash C B

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Clue 5

ho sakta hai dekho na
samjho miTTi ko sona
pal bhar ka haNsna
ho jaaye jeevan bhar ka rona

This movie was a showcase for Pancham's variety. And
perhaps can be placed at the top for the number of
hits in one single album. A truly musical joy ride.
Proved once again that he was second to none. For a
change, Rafi sharing the vocals with Kishore
equally.

It was difficult choosing any particular song from
the movie for the quiz as all of them are very
popular. So this was anyway going to be an easy one.
Still I could not suppress my urge to include one
from this movie and the choice rested on this
enchanting romantic duet put to paper by the master
of dialogue in songs - Majrooh.

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Song : ye laD.ka haay allah kaisa hai deewaana
Film : Ham Kisise Kam Nahin (77)
Lyrics : Majrooh
Singers : Asha, Rafi

*** Solved by : All

*** My favourite from this movie however is 'kya hua tera vaada'. I must be very young when I first listened to the song, but it still makes me feel goosebumps after so many years. Notably I have not seen the picturised song as yet. As a matter of fact, I hate to see Pancham's songs on screen. Most of them were killed by the filmmakers.

... Itna aasan hoga is baar... socha bhi na tha...
- Amit K S

... Honey....its pure Honey flowing thru ears...i
can feel it:-))
- Subhash C B

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Clue 6

sone chaaNdi ka wo dil kya
jo na dil ke kaam aaye
yahaaN to teree qasam
pyaar waaloN meiN sanam
apna pahla naam aaye

Listen to the stanzas of this song and you know
where did Jatin-Lalit take their inspiration from
for stanzas of Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar's 'shahar ki
pariyoN ke peechhe'. And why Pancham was
incomparable when it came to compose stanzas.

Typical Pancham. It's difficult to live without your
music, Pancham da.

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Song : jeena kya aji yaar bina
Film : Dhan Daulat (80)
Lyrics : Majrooh
Singers : Asha, Kishore

... For some reason you have put a song from the
rishi kapoor films into my head. I know this is wrong, so i wonder what it is.
- Gayatri Gopalan

... superb dance number and majrooh lyrics made sure
that you can listen n no of times without getting
bogged down.
- Subhash C B

... Oh God!!! Its ages since I heard this song,
remember vaguely Rishi dancing with 'Dafli' with
Neetu and bombay local trains in background. Just
guessing it based on your hint of 'Shehar ki
pariyon' stanza.
- Tabassum H

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Clue 7

kaise haiN ye andhere Dhalte naheeN
meeloN talak ujaale milte naheeN
hamaare tumhaare, jeevan meiN kaise aayee ye
andhiyaari raat

Another gem from Pancham-Kishore. Whether it be
fun-filled songs or sad solos like this title song
from a 1979 movie, the team did wonders. Kishore
remained an integral part of a Pancham album until
death took over him. This MD-Singer duo was simply
one of the all-time great combinations of Hindi film
music.
Lyrics: Yogesh

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Song : ham aur tum the saathi
Film : Hamare Tumhare (79)
Lyrics : Yogesh
Singers : Kishore

... too obvious
- Sujay J

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Clue 8

pahle bhee yooN to barse the baadal
pahle bhee yooN to bheega tha aaNchal
abke baras kyooN sajan
sulag sulag jaaye man

The last line should make this one a sitter. If
still you are not able to make it, listen to the
pouring rain and you will get to your destination...

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Song : rimjhim gire saawan
Film : Manzil (78)
Lyrics : Yogesh
Singers : Lata

*** Solved by : All

... I didn't read the last line plus your
explanation before remembering (not guessing) the
song ... is waqt baarish ho rahi hai mere ghar ke
saamne.... mukhDe ki ye line yaad karne ke liye
mujhe poore do antare gungunaane paDe :-)
- Amit K S

... I prefer Tum ho mere dil ki dhadkan though.
- Dixit Arya

... I can feel rain whenever I listen to this song,
I love Kishore's version. Same feeling I get with
1942.. song 'rim jhim, rum jhum'
- Tabassum H

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Clue 9

apne aaNsoo meiN khud pighalna hai
aag meiN apnee aap jalna hai
aakhir dhuaaN ho jaana hai
aahoN meiN Dhalte Dhalte

Hauntingly melodious.

The movie name reminds of an older movie (non-RD)
which had one of Lata's favourite haunting song.

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Song : maiN hooN diya sooni raat ka
Film : Jal Mahal (79)
Lyrics : Majrooh
Singers : Lata

*** Solved by : All but 9 participants (most
un-answered clue)
*** As you might have guessed, the movie reminds of 'Mahal' composed by Khemchandra Prakash which had the Lata beauty 'aayega aanewala'.

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Clue 10

Doobee Doobee aaNkhoN meiN
sapnoN ke saaye
raat bhar apne haiN
din meiN paraaye

kaise nainoN meiN nindiya samaaye

Beautifully composed. With as beautiful thoughts
spread on the wings of it. The composition
originally was done for a Bangla song, which was
sung by RDB himself. I prefer this Lata version. It
has its own unique Gulzarish fragrance.

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Song : do nainoN meiN aaNsooN bhare haiN
Film : Khushboo (75)
Lyrics : Gulzar
Singers : Lata

*** Contrary to my expectations, almost everyone
seemed to get this one easily. Only a couple of
wrong entries. The Bangla song referred here is
'tomaate aamaate' as rightly mentioned by Amit.

.. Fragrance ... oops... KhHushboo... (tomaate
aamaate dekha hoye chhilo)
- Amit K S

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Clue 11

Males:
likkha tha aasmaaN par
yooN hi ye khel hona

Females:
pahle nazar ulajhana
phir dil ka mel hona

All:
chhoD.o ye gile, jaise bhi mile
mil to gaye haiN

Two male singers. Two female singers. males singing
together, females together. Word by word, note by
note. The experiment is rarely found elsewhere. And
the effect that it creates with superb rendering by
four great singers is mind-boggling. But the
composition tops everything. Goosebumpy.

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Song : pahli nazar meiN hamne to apna
Film : The Burning Train (80)
Lyrics : Sahir
Singers : Asha, Rafi, Kishore, Usha M

... Using plurals for the singers gives enough clue.
- Amit K S

... I love qawalii from this film 'Pal do pal ka
saath hamara'.
- Tabassum H

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Clue 12

Dhoondh thakee sab dwaar galee
raat yooN hi phir beet chalee
aaye piya ajhooN na......

The Double track mastery of Pancham da is in
evidence here again. And like each of his double
track numbers, this too is very different in terms
of the effect created. The thing to wonder over,
however, is that in his efforts to make the song
sound perfectly, he never lost his way with the
melody of the song. Wishful thinking these days.

The movie is named after one of my favourite
Gulzar-Pancham songs from 'Ghar'. That song was
excluded at the eleventh hour because of its
distinctly identifiable antaras.

Penned by Majrooh. Rendered by Lata.

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Song : bindiya tarse, naina barse
Film : Phir Wohi Raat (80)
Lyrics : Majrooh
Singers : Lata

... I know this, Damn it! ?It's not coming to
me. I will nail this down, somehow. (*** He did it -V)
- Ajit Iyer

...kuchh maheene pahle hi ye album khHareeda tha,
aur tabhi ye gaana pahli baar suna tha... despite
the monotonous Rajesh Roshan type first line (my
feelings)... this is another favourite
- Amit K S

... My favorite song apart from Tere Bina was Phir
Wohi Raat hai so the answer is Phir Wohi Raat
- Dixit Arya

... Lata in her best
- Subhash C B

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Clue 13

panghaT jagee, gaaoN kee har galee jaagee
goree kaheeN aur kaheeN saaNwalee jaagee
aaNchal ki chhaiyaaN apne saiyaaN ko bulaaye

Despite my wishes to disagree with the fact that
Lata was given more melodious songs than Asha by
Pancham, songs like these make me believe otherwise.
But on second thoughts, I have rarely found myself
in disagreement with Pancham's selection of Lata &
Asha for his songs. Was it the amazing foresight of
his or the natural sound-scientist inside him which
made him select the best suitable voice between the
two. Always.

It is from a lesser-known Pancham movie of 1980s,
which had some real good fun songs by Asha &
Kishore. This song however is a very sweet melody,
sung by Lata. Check the main clue for a give-away
hint.

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Song : bhor bhaye panchhee
Film : Aanchal (79)
Lyrics : Majrooh
Singers : Lata

*** proved to be another tough one (as intended :)).
7 of the participants couldn't answer it. The whole album incidentally is a personal favourite with songs like 'jaane de gaaD.i teri jaane de' (Asha), 'paiise ka kaajal' (Asha & Kishore), 'bas meri jaaN bas' (Lata & Kishore) and 'aisa rangeen samaaN' (Kishore) apart from the one in the clue.

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Clue 14

zahreelee tere bina raat lage
chhaala paD.e, aag jaise chaaNd pe jo haath lage

When it comes to write nonsensical lines, there is
no other lyricist who can do it more sensibly than
Gulzar. The lines above are by no means nonsensical.
The song in question, however, is.

The movie also had another remarkably original,
nonsensical & 'childlike' children song. Simple,
easy, effective. How Pancham da turned his studio
into a classroom to make the song what it became, is
another story.

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Song : dhanno ki aaNkhoN meiN
Film : Kitaab (77)
Lyrics : Gulzar
Singers : R D Burman

*** Other answers: garam garam raat mein from Naram
Garam (Vijay K K), mere saath na chale saaya from
Kitaab (Subhash C B)

*** The other childlike song that I am talking about of course is 'master ji ki aa gayee chiTThi'. The percussion used for the song were nothing else but classroom benches imported in the studio from a nearby school. Just another incident which shows the passion of the master for real and closer-to-life sounds.

...Panchamda turned his studio into a class
room is a perfect clue. Gave it away, otherwise this
song would have remained on the tip of my tongue.
- Ajit Iyer

... nonsensical lyrics aur Kitaab ke clue se pakDa
hai
- Amit K S

... This is the only song I remember in movie other
than 'Aa aa ee ee'
- Tabassum H

... my Fav one. have sung it many times on stage.
- Yatin Sangoi

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Clue 15

apni tanhaai ka auron se na shiqawaa karna
tum akele hi naheeN ho sabhee akele haiN

Philosophy was given the right clothes to wear and
roam around by Pancham. From one of his very best
music scores. Classical, semi-classical, free-verse,
an out-of-the-world duet, a solo by Lata and this
one by Kishore - all of this in one single movie.
Ask for more? Well.. yes. One could have asked the
sky from Pancham and would have got it. Let's pay
our humble tribute to the master on his 61st birth
anniversary on 27th June. ... gar yaad rahe.

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Song : jaane kya sochkar naheeN guzara
Film : Kinara (77)
Lyrics : Gulzar
Singers : Kishore

*** Solved by: All but one.

....Thanks for the gar yaad rahe hint from the same
movie :)
- Gayatri Gopalan

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Winners..
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The Pancham Bhakt Award goes to..

* Vasant Ekbote

for being the first one to send an all-correct entry
and the only one to do it before the deadline.

The other two winners of the quiz, with all-correct
entries (full marks) are...

* Pavan Jha
* Saurav Mazumder

Runners up (28 marks) :

* Bhanu Varma
* Tabassum Hijazi
* Anshul Chobey
* Vijay Kumar K
* Ajit Iyer
* Girish Bagmar
* Subhash C. Barthwal

Congratulations to all the people above and those
who tried solving the quiz. Keep watching for the
next Panchamrit. Send me your requests if you want
to host a future Panchamrit. And in the meanwhile,
keep listening....

- Vinay

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